STEPHEN HADLEY,
ON THE PRESIDENT'S TRIP TO EUROPE
THE WHITE HOUSE
February 17, 2005
Excerpts
QUESTION Mr. Hadley, Iran -- the question of negotiations between Europe
and the Iranian government on suspending or eliminating their nuclear weapons
development program. How will that topic come up in Europe? And what can the
-- what can the President do to get the United States involved with that diplomatic
effort?
HADLEY: Well, there's a lot of commonality between the United States and Europe
on Iran, a lot of consensus about what Iran needs to do. It needs
to give up the pursuit of nuclear weapons. Everybody is agreed on that. It needs
to stop its sponsorship of terror, particularly with respect to the Palestinian
areas and Hezbollah, because the activities of those groups is very much in the
way of the positive development, we hope, between the Israeli and the Palestinians.
There is the treatment of their own people, which both we and the Europeans have
talked about and that Condi talked about in her press availability with Chancellor
Schroeder. So it will come up in one sense because there's a commonality on the
agenda -- concern about Iran and a commonality about what Iran needs
to do.
We've actually been very much involved on the nuclear issue. You may remember,
this was managed for a long period of time in the IAEA Board of Governors --
35 members; we, of course, are part of that, and we've been in active participation
on that. It is true that the Europeans, the EU 3, have taken the lead in the
recent conversations with Iran that resulted in the current agreement.
We've been supportive of that effort -- the President has been supportive of
that effort, and we would continue to do so. The real question, of course, is
where we go on that arrangement, that it is -- basically temporarily freezes
their enrichment activities, and what we need is a permanent cessation of their
enrichment programs and any reprocessing activity.
That's what the Europeans are trying to seek. And I think the question is whether
the Iranians are willing to go forward. And I think that's really the next thing
that we need to see, is something from the Iranians about a willingness to go
forward in the path that the EU 3 have described.
QUESTION Can I follow up on that?
QUESTION Would it be at the NATO Summit that the President would raise those
concerns and issues? Where would that come up?
HADLEY: Well, I expect it will come up in a variety of discussions. You know,
in some sense it's -- in many respects, it's the same group of players at NATO
and at the EU, so I think it will come up probably in different ways in both
of those forums. My guess is it's probably more likely to come up on the EU side.
QUESTION I just wanted to follow up on the President's statements on Israel,
in relation to Iran, of course. What exactly constitutes a threat to Israel,
since there has been this verbal threat by the Ayatollah? And at what point does
the United States come to Israel's defense?
HADLEY: Well, I think the reality is that virtually all the countries in the
region would view an Iran with nuclear weapons as a destabilizing factor
in the region. And that's, of course, where we don't want to go, because that's
a very difficult problem for all of us to manage. And that's, of course, why
we've been engaged with the IAEA Board of Governors; that's why we have been
supportive of the EU 3 effort, so that we don't have to face that eventuality.
QUESTION So the President said today he was hopeful that by the time he gets
to Europe he'll be able to talk somewhat about the culpability that Syria may
or may not have had in Monday's bombing. I'm wondering if you can tell us that
there's been a conclusion that, at a minimum, the Syrians knew, had some advance
notice of this, or anything you can share with us about the progress of that
investigation.
HADLEY: We really don't know. The Lebanese authority are doing an inquiry. The
President's statement -- the U.N. Security Council President's statement of earlier
this week asked the Secretary General to review and, in some sense, oversee these
events and report back to the Security Council. There may be efforts to expand
the scope of the investigation. I think we're at the early stages. We just don't
really know at this point.
QUESTION Could you elaborate a little bit on how the President might enlist France's
help, with its special relationship in Lebanon, to contend with Syria, and separately,
how the President will deal with Mr. Putin and Russia's planned sale of weapons
to Syria?
HADLEY: We've actually been very much involved with the French government in
connection with Lebanon. U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559 was really an
example of a very good collaboration between the United States, France, and other
countries, as well. So it has been an area of close collaboration between the
two of us, and I think it will continue to be so.
In terms of these reports of a Russian sale of SAM systems to Syria, obviously,
we have some concerns about it. Syria, of course, continues to be on the list
of countries that are state sponsors of terror. This is a particular time of
hope in the Middle East, and we don't want to do anything that would destabilize
the situation. So we have some concerns, and we've raised them with the Russian
government in an appropriate way. And other countries have raised their concerns,
as well. And we are hopeful and confident that the Russians will take them into
account.
QUESTION Back to Iran for two quick questions. You say you're engaged
with the EU 3. I think there's a sense from their end that they would like to
see the United States do more, possibly get behind this idea of various incentives
and such. Do you envision that the President will offer any sort of concrete
support for that notion?
And secondly, Secretary Rice's comments about the totalitarian nature of the
Iranian regime, the loathsome nature of it, was that based on any sort of new
sense that you have of greater repression, or new intelligence on that? Or can
you give us -- shed some light on where those comments rank?
HADLEY: I wouldn't accept your characterization of the comments she's made. I
mean, what -- the President has said for some time that we stand, the American
people stand on the side of those people in Iran who want greater freedom
and democracy. And there's no secret. That's something I think we share with
the Europeans, as well.
I think that in terms of the discussions that the EU 3 -- let me go back to that.
And some of the things that give us pause about that, of course, are the last
election for the Majilis, the efforts that were made to eliminate candidates
that were not acceptable to the Iranian government. There have been some actions
against opposition members, some actions against the press, if you look back
over this last six months to a year. So while there's a trend in the region for
greater freedom and democracy and participation by people, unfortunately, the
trends in Iran seem to be going in the other way.
In terms of where the Europeans are in the discussion with the Iranians, you
know there is an ongoing discussion talking about the kinds of opportunities
that would be available to Iran to have expanded diplomatic, economic
and political ties if they were to permanently cease their uranium enrichment
program and give up any reprocessing. And the truth is you can tell from the
statements that have been made by the Iranian government, the jury is out. We
need to see where the Iranians are heading. That's the next thing we need to
see.
QUESTION President Bush is the first American President who is going to Slovakia.
Can you elaborate more what will be his message for Slovaks in Bratislava? And
then I'm sure Slovak government and also EU will open American visa policy. What
can we expect from President Bush?
HADLEY: Two things. One, obviously, he's coming with a message that the United
States and Europe have a common agenda to advance freedom and democracy in the
world. And it's -- the stop in the Slovak Republic is a nice opportunity for
the President to remind Europe and the rest of the world of the progress we've
made together in that part of the world. It's also an opportunity to pay tribute
to the people of the Slovak Republic and also other countries in the region for
the right choices they made in pursuing democracy and freedom and making the
hard choices that those countries had to make as they moved out of communist
regimes, and to really celebrate the progress we've made, and to acknowledge
those men and women who were on the forefront of the cause of freedom in Central
and Eastern Europe. And hopefully, by acknowledging their contribution, give
some hope and support to those people who are advancing the cause of freedom
elsewhere in the world.
QUESTION Your visa policy?
HADLEY: Yes, there will clearly be discussions about that. You heard a way forward
that has been developed when the President met with President Kwasniewski, of
Poland. We think that kind of way forward ought to be available to other countries
of Central and Eastern Europe, and would put us on the road to putting the visa
issue behind us.
Mr. JONES: Time for one more.
HADLEY: Yes, ma'am.
QUESTION Sir, you talk a lot about common ground and commonality.
HADLEY: Right.
QUESTION And certainly, the United States and Europe have common goals in a lot
of areas, but isn't the problem that they have vastly different ideas about how
to achieve those goals? And I'm thinking specifically here of China, Iran, and
global warming. And do you expect any kind of resolution to come out, any kind
of common approach to come out of these meetings?
HADLEY: I guess I wouldn't accept the proposition, vastly different, in Iran.
Actually, I think we have a fairly coordinated approach on Iran with respect
to
the nuclear issue. We've worked very well in the IAEA Board of Governors; we've
been supportive of the EU 3 Initiative. So I think, actually, we have a good
convergence on the nuclear issues, and I think it's important for us to continue
our dialogue with Iran, to continue to talk about their support for terror
and other things.
Secondly, in terms of China, again, I think there is a lot of commonality in
terms of China. Obviously, we have -- we all have an interest in China continuing
to move in the direction of democracy and freedom and being a constructive member
of the international community. We have common concerns about human rights. Yes,
there is the issue of the EU arms embargo, what to do about that. But I think
it will be approached in a very constructive spirit. The President has real concerns
about it, as we've described. He will share those concerns with the Europeans.
They will, obviously, have an opportunity to express their views. And he will
listen.
And I think since we have a basic common set of overall objectives, I think we'll
find a way forward that will be acceptable.
Mr. JONES: Thank you, very much.
HADLEY: Okay, thank you.
