U.S. Statesmen Should Abandon Threats, Ultimatums (Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Interview with NBC)

July 29, 2008

President of Islamic Republic of Iran said here Monday US would suffer losses if it would continue the path it has pave for past 50 years, adding, "If they wish to cooperate with Iranian nation they should end using language of threats and ultimatums.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made the comment in an interview with the American NBC TV station, reiterating, "The entire world nations, particularly the world elites are displeased with the status quo of the world today, because the ongoing conditions are contrary to the human beings' prestige and such conditions are beneath the peoples' dignity."
He added, "The shadow of fear, enmity, discrimination and injustice is cast over the human society today, and under such conditions it is quite natural that those who truly care for the mankind and their well being, or for peace and progress of the world nations try to change such an undesirable status quo."

The President said that any fundamental change in the situation of the world is in need for thorough understanding of the root causes of the problems, reiterating, "Looking at the world and the status of human beings through a materialist pair of glasses would lead to adopting a unilateral approach, devoid of the teachings of the prophets and the human values, leading to the current status of the world today."

He added, "The solution to such problems is changing the direction of the mankind towards embracing the values and the teachings of the prophets, in which case the world would be filled with love, peace and friendship and the roots of the people's entire problems would be dried."

The president emphasized, "In order to reach that desirable position, all those who care for the fate of the mankind are obliged to do their best, and that is the abstract of the Iranian nation's massage for the world nations, including the Americans."

The NBC reporter asked whether President Ahmadinejad's message for the world and for the Americas is a message of cooperation, or one of an antagonist encounter.

Ahmadinejad replied, "What a coincidence! That is the question we would like to ask the US statesmen. Which approach do they wish to adopt towards the Iranian nation? Of course the US politicians have been adopting an antagonist stand against the Iranian nation during the past 50 years, and our nation has got used to it, adapting their lives to it."

The IRI President reiterated, "We are now witnessing new moves on the part of the US statesmen, and the question is whether this change of attitude is the prelude for adopting a polite approach based on the rules of justice, or merely a facade for the same old antagonist approach and encountering the Iranian nation packed and presented in a new wrapping?"

To a question on Iran's response to the the so called 5+1's fortnight moratorium for Tehran at Geneva Conference, he said, "That was not what we understood from Geneva talks."

He added, "In that session both the 5+1 and we presented our packages and the talks were focused on a shared work plan. It is quite natural that as a first step the talks needed to be focused on shared points of the two packages, and if the two sides would reach consensus, that would pave the path for agreeing over the points of difference of opinions."

President of Islamic Republic of Iran added, "Of course if they are going to keep threatening and imposing more sanctions against the Iranian nation our response is quite clear." President Ahmadinejad said, "But if the path would be based on mutual understanding and cooperation, talks are needed for defining the appropriate fields for cooperation, and the Islamic Republic of Iran would rather choose the latter approach, but we would leave it up to the other side to make that decision."

He added, "No one is capable of speaking the language of sanctions and imposing moratoriums against the Iranian nation, and adopting such an approach would not help solve the problem."

Ahmadinejad said that talking over common points of the two packages is a good way for achieving proximity of minds.

The NBC reporter said that if Iran would yield to the 5+1 conditions there is a possibility that the gates of the world would be opened for cooperation with Tehran.

The IRI President replied, "Today the Islamic Republic of Iran is a great country with a growing economy, enjoying economic and cultural relations with various countries," adding, "and of course everyone knows well that in order to proceed and to live, the Iranian nation is no longer in need of pleasing a few aggressor powers." He added, "We believe any kind of defining conditions for holding talks, or for continuing cooperation is an effort aimed at aborting the talks. Focusing over shared points would be a better way for reaching consensus."

The President reiterated, "The conditions of the world today is such that you cannot even speak the language of ultimatums in your talks with a few-million-strong nation, let alone in talks with the great Iranian nation."

Ahmadinejad said, "In addition to that, any move at such scenes is in need of having a legal basis. In Geneva there was no mention of any moratorium, and we did not comprehend any such thing. Of course we believe the Geneva talks were a step forward, in need of more new steps in the same direction."

He reiterated, "We evaluate the presence of a US representative in those talks as a positive point, on conditions that such an approach would be pursued amid a logical and just atmosphere."

In response to a question on existence of certain economic problems in Iran, the IRI President said, "You need not be worried about the Iranian nation! The Iranians would solve their own problems."

Ahmadinejad added, "Asking such a question is like asking a US official how come over 1.2 percent of the Americans, that is over three million people are spending their lives behind bars? Or how come over 40 million of the bereaved victims of the Catherina storm are still homeless? Such matters are related to the internal affairs of the United States."

The president reiterated, "If someone would step forward for negotiations with the Iranian nation frankly and based on the rules of justice the Iranian nation would welcome him, but if they would keep on speaking the language of threats, the historic response of the Iranian nation is clear."

The NBC reporter claimed that the Iranian nation would be lucky if Tehran would accept the precondition for negotiations (suspension).

President Ahmadinejad replied, "The Iranian nation is lucky already, and with the passage of each new day they feel luckier and more happy."

The IRI President asked, "Why do some people assume that their life style is the best possible way of living? Any nation lives its particular type of life. If you look at the matter from the viewpoint of the US interests, the question would be whether the US statesmen have been benefitted form the approach they have adopted towards Iran during the past 50 years?"

Ahmadinejad added, "Of course the most pessimist analysts would confess that the US has suffered losses due to adopting such an approach."

He emphasized, "There are more important matters than material rewards in human beings' lives, including preserving the human beings' dignity and prestige."

The NBC reporter asked whether Iran is willing to alter its approach in a way.

The IRI President replied, "By attending the Geneva talks we already did so when we welcomed the presence of a representative from the United States. If they, too, would continue the same policy in near future the situation would definitely change for better." He added, "The prerequisite for changing the situation into a more favorable one is that the Americans would recognize the rights of the Iranian nation, abide by the international laws, and yield to the need for mutual respect, and doing such things is not tough at all." President Ahmadinejad said, "If the American politicians have come up with the conclusion that it is time for altering their policies, it is also necessary for them to openly declare such a right decision, and to adopt their practical positive policies accordingly."

President of Islamic Republic of Iran added, Adopting such an approach would be to the benefit for the US administration, benefit of the entire world nation, and the benefit of the Iranian nation, too, and we would would welcome it.

The NBC reporter asked what price President Ahmadinejad thinks is just for a barrel of oil.

President Ahmadinejad replied, "This question needs to be analyzed at an economic atmosphere, of course. The market needs to be really free, and competitions need to take place under just conditions.

He added, "Today the conditions at the market are unreal and the prices are not real either. That is because some powers have led the markets towards a superficial growth. The price of oil, too, is not the result of free competition at the oil markets."
About the future of Iraq, the IRI President reiterated, "In the long run the Iraqi nation would overcame its problems, but in the short run the situation depends on the behavior of the US administration."

He added, "If the US statesmen would adopt a logical and humane approach, the situation would improve in Iraq is a short while, but if they would intend to keep on imposing their will, the historic experience shows that the Iraqi nation would prefer to resist rather than to yield to oppression and injustice."

President Ahmadinejad said, "Under such conditions although the Iraqi nation would suffer more losses, but they would eventually achieve victory, forcing those who have not respected the Iraqis to suffer losses as well."

Reiterating that the nations' rights and independence are not matters for deals, Ahmadinejad said, "Under ideal conditions and based on justice all sides can be benefitted and there is no need for suffering losses. Under such conditions sustainable peace and security, too, can be achieved."

The NBC reporter asked President Ahmadinejad's explanation about the claim that a former FBI agent has been lost in Iran.

Ahmadinejad reiterated, "Such a claim was made in the media and the man's family members came to Iran, met the Iranian officials and received responses to their questions. Of course there is no reason why someone who arrives Iran officially would face any problems, while there is also an analysis based on which this person is at the FBI's hands now."

Asked if he is agreed with the opening of a US Interests Office in Tehran, or not, President Ahmadinejad said, "In fact there is already a US Interests Section at the Swiss Embassy in Tehran, but all the same, we welcome any move that would serve for expanding the two governments' relations."

The NBC reporter asked who really holds the power levers in Iran.

The IRI President said, "The process of decision making in Iran is quite clear and any official at his own position adopts decisions based on the rights defined for him in the IRI Constitution, his rights, and his legal duties."

Asked if Iran is after acquiring nuclear weapons, or nuclear power, Ahmadinejad said, "We are not after acquiring nuclear weapons, and we do not believe there is any use in doing so, since it has no direct effect in regulating political relations."

He added, "The Zionist regime has hundreds of nuclear warheads, but could they assist that regime in winning the war in Lebanon? Or did he nuclear weapons assist the former Soviet Union to halt the process of its doomed disintegration? And have the US nuclear weapons assisted Washington in winning the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?" President Ahmadinejad said, "The A bombs were a feature of the 20th Century, while we are now living in a new century. Of course the ugly move made by some powers related to nuclear energy is that they have introduced the nuclear energy as a total equivalent of the nuclear bombs to the human society."

He added, "That is while the atomic energy is very beneficial and very clean source, and the entire world nations should be benefitted from it."

President Ahmadinejad stressed, "Bombs are bad things and no country should possess them, therefore those who agree with us in that point should begin with annihilation of their own A bombs, as well."